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His name is Siva Shankar

A series of exclusive interviews with Siva Shankar Baba
-N C Sangeethaa


How would you define yourself?

Just before this question came up in Sathsangh, these singers were singing ‘Every person is bound to attain this State one day’. I have attained this state already. Believing that everyone will definitely attain this state some day, I share these divine experiences with seekers; I am a guide. In present day situation, anything else I say will lead to controversy.     

I can call myself God. There may be adequate justification. Or I can call myself a Mahaan and give sufficient explanation. Or I can call myself a Siddha and rationalize it. But the time is not ripe for you to understand why I address myself God; that’s because you have not yet attained that state.

You know the taste of a sweet, only after you eat it. Explanations can never make you comprehend anything; only experience can. Otherwise it is the case of the ‘six blind men’ attempting to describe an elephant.

Siva Shankar Baba has undergone various experiences in life. He already tastes the nectar called God. Spirituality cannot be explained; it needs to be experienced. Only He who can understand himself realizes his leader. Today you are a human being identifying yourself with the name you have given your body. I am immersed in the bliss of the Soul that is beyond the body. The language you speak and understand is different. I speak a different language. Linking these results is chaos.

It is easy to ask a Japanese for water by sign language. There are universal symbols to represent drinking water or toilet. A foreigner will fail to understand if you ask these in your native language. Mine is the language of the Soul; yours is that of the body. The two are not in tune at present.

Currently the synchronization is achieved by thoughts only. Beyond a level, words become redundant. A person sought clarifications from Buddha. Buddha replied, ‘On the condition that you must not speak for one whole year. You must be with me, listen to my discourses and observe my actions. At the end of that year, I will answer any question you have’. So for one whole year, the person was with Buddha observing all that Buddha did. At the end of the stipulated time, Buddha asked the seeker to state his questions. The man replied, ‘I have no questions’ and seated himself under a tree in the nearby garden. He heard the sound of laughter and turned to see another person seated nearby asking him, ‘You also came seeking clarification from Buddha?’ Apparently this person too had come with a similar intention a year before.

You need to understand a Mahaan. He cannot be described.

That, which you seek, can take any form at will. Adi Sankara was on a pilgrimage to Kasi seeking the blessings of Kasi Viswanatha. He felt thirsty. A cobbler offered him water from his leather bag. Adi Sankara grew furious and said, ‘Low born, Move away’, to which the cobbler asked, ‘whom are you asking to move away: this body or the Athma within this body?’ Only then Adi Sankara understood that it was Kasi Viswanatha Himself who had come in the form of a cobbler to enlighten him. Lord Siva appeared in the form of a butcher to Somasi Nayanar who trusted Sundaramoorthy Nayanar’s words.

He who begins to see divinity in all beings in this world, gradually attains that Divinity. You can’t become a Ph.D in one day. You need to start off with Kinder Garten basics. This is the training program. See everything as God, know that this Eternal whole Bliss, Poorana Anandham pervades everywhere and is in everything. Then you will comprehend Divinity.

Once you reach that state, you will not differentiate anything. You will suffocate when others choke. You will be pained by others’ distress. This state of empathy is possible. But you need to have mind training, mind taming. It takes time. Delight in looking on other’s life as your own, share what you have with others and treat everyone equally. Lord Nataraja is in a dance of Eternal Ecstasy in such loving hearts. God exists in those who treat others’ sorrows as their own. This is Vallalar’s realization. Love is God. When a person’s being overflows with compassionate love, he becomes equal to God Himself. This is the finding of all Mahaans.

So many people visit here. And Baba is impartial towards everyone. There is no agent between you and me. In fact, I have my lunch only after seeing every one of you, however long it takes.

I have the confidence that I am impartial and love everyone, so what is wrong in addressing myself God? God is no different from Love. Most people do not understand this concept.

Thiruvalluvar says, ‘Grace is the child of Love’. He, who is bestowed with Grace, is the embodiment of Love. He showers Love. He showers Grace. Grace and Love are no different.

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