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His Name is Siva Shankar..(388)
'A series of exclusive interviews with Siva Shankar Baba'
-N C Sangeethaa
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Saral 453

25 January 2010

 

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Why are saints not recognized and are ostracized? There is growing inhibition towards them; then how can one become a good saint?

 

Siddhartha was a prince. He renounced his kingdom to become Gautama Buddha –the people poisoned him. Prophet Mohammed was chased, thrown stones at and had to stay away from society for quite a while. Jesus was crucified. The world is willing to accept any person on the street but not a saint.

Our senior most saint Kanchi Sankaracharya led the life of a real saint for 88 years. He used to travel on foot instead of going by car. His contribution to our Ancient Vedic Heritage was great. Take Tamil Nadu today; there would be hardly 5000 people who remember him. This is the fate of a real guru. He sacrificed his life for the people, yet not even five years since he passed away and people have forgotten him. Whereas worldly celebrities like politicians and cinema stars are remembered much longer.

Of late, my message is only this: A saint is a person who renounces worldly possessions for the people. A saint does not crave for your respect when he establishes hospitals and schools. Bill Gates has contributed more philanthropically than any saint today. Birla has made greater education centers and IIT centres which are much bigger than Prasanthi Nilayam or my campus. These are all the duties of the welfare department of the Government. However, we saints do build hospitals and education centres, only because people seem to understand this language only. My view is, saints should be respected as they lead a simple life, inculcate normal human values like love, are beyond prejudice, have clear thoughts and make themselves accessible to everyone. A normal person is unable to imbibe these qualities whereas saints are able to do so. These qualities of a saint should be imbibed. A saint is not a mere photo or a statue. He is a living example, a living force. One should think, ‘If he can love everyone, why cannot I?’ ‘If he can be so impartial why cannot I?’ If he has conquered anger, why have I not?’

It is like Mathematics. There will be a model sum. The rest of the sums you have to solve on your own. Like that the 1st chapter is Rama, 2nd chapter is Buddha, 3rd chapter is Adi Shankara, 4th chapter is Jesus Christ, 5th chapter is Mohamed Nabi, and so on. The remaining sums you should solve. Whether you have solved them rightly or not is a result you will verify at the end of each chapter, after you have attempted the sums. The answers are at the end of each chapter. Whether the riddle of life has been solved, only time will tell and that too when x or y dies. Our result will be known in the end and until such time we have to keep on working out the sums.

Religion is misconstrued to be Economics, Medical Science and Psychiatry. Religion is Dharma, the way of Life. Religion teaches you about renouncing the world mentally and working towards reunion with God but unfortunately, the present day concept of life that most people harbour is just to live and focus on worldly pleasures only..

The inner bitterness or inhibition towards saints is because of two reasons: one’s nferiority complex and selfishness.

Inferiority complex is due to the fact that one has not understood one’s divine potentiality. People assume that only bank balance is important but do not know that they can be successful in so many other things. Each one has inner talents which can be put to better use.

My institution functions with educated middle class people. Human resource with humanitarian consideration is the formula I have adopted, and it has produced results. It gives the satisfaction and an avenue to come out with the best for the interest of the society at large. I do not have the backing of Tata or Ambani or Birla behind my institution, but I am very successful. I am not a politically powerful man where the world’s economy is in my hands or that any influential person is behind me or the institution. Not even the press supports me. But I have achieved much more than most of the other saints. How does that become feasible? Because I believe in God and do my best, and He takes care of everything for me.

If you say you believe in God, believe totally as Draupadi did, who threw up her hands seeking the protection of Lord Krishna. If at that time, help does not come forth, then one might as well demolish all the temples. But trust me, God does come to help. He never ever lets anyone down.

People’s faith is half baked and that is the reason why they are not getting results. When you have 100% faith in God, then HE takes over.

By sitting here quietly, if I think this should happen, it will happen for I have given up everything for the sake of God. He Knows His responsibilities. This is my experience. Whatever I seek, God Fulfills. To reach this stage, you have to undergo many trials, many ordeals God Gives you; you must surmount over life’s various obstacles gracefully. You will get results in due course.

If P.T. Usha runs 100 metres race in 10 seconds, it becomes possible only after many years of arduous practice. She did not come to this level in one day. Start doing small things first, bigger things will follow in logical order.

Training in my institution is not to sit and meditate. People learn to polish the shoes and sandals of visitors; they wash toilets, they look upon everyone and everything as God. The day they can carry out that task to meticulous perfection, ultimately they can do bigger things to perfection as well. If you start to dismiss something as too small a task and only focus on doing bigger tasks, then you will never progress.

For example, Mahatma Gandhi was always working on his spinning wheel; it was just to have mind control. His aim was, if he could achieve spinning flawlessly doing Rama Nama Japam then he could one day see Rama. Without this beginning how could one reach the end? If you cannot do a small thing physically, how can you attain something mentally, like Yoga?
Yoga is an art of trying to achieve perfection in small things and then moving on, till one day you can use the same perfection to achieve bigger things. I do not want anyone to forsake their job or vocation or family or whatever he is doing. I became a saint, yet personally, I sought nothing out of this. I do not expect anything from anyone. I have truly renounced everything in my mind, and am all the time leading a crystal clear life, working for God only, and keeping nothing other than God in my mind. You too should become like this.

The next question is ‘How?’

If you are a doctor, be a good one, if you are an engineer, be an expert; be a dedicated teacher, a meticulous gardener and so on. That is what the society requires. This is how it can exist. My equation is very simple: whatever you are doing, continue in the same path and excel in it. Do not ever try to become a saint per se. There is no such thing as ‘vocation of a saint’, anyone and everyone can lead a saintly life and hence you need not ‘become’ a saint.

Lead a normal life. There is no need for all the garbs, aping or trying to look like a saint. Everyone is equally close to God. God wants performers and not just witnesses. What is the point if everyone sits around chanting Rama Rama Krishna Krishna. The whole world belongs to God. Your home is a branch office of God. First you look after God’s branch office that He has entrusted to you: take care of your spouse and children and God will be happy because one of His responsibilities is taken care of. Once you achieve perfection in His branch office then He will promote you to the regional office, and then to the head office. If you are unable to manage four people, then how will it be possible for you to manage 400 or 4000 people?

In seeking God, initially I left my family but was instructed to rejoin them, fulfill my responsibilities to them, after four years of sadhana. Only after I did so, was I allowed by God into full-time spirituality. Now I have cleared that karma and feel nice about it. If not, at some point of my life I would have felt guilty. They are now very well settled. If I had not obeyed His Decree, I would have to take another birth to live with them.

If you really believe God is with you, protecting you and walking your every step, who can ever knock you down? This is my philosophy of life.

 

( Baba's replies to other questions continues next week....)

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